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is now on the edge of the fiscal cliff. hours to go until the deadline and as we get closer in theory, the pentagon is getting ready to layoff quite literally thousands of employees because of the automatic spending cuts that go into effect if no deal is reached in d.c. at midnight. we have more on that fall out, hunter? >> how you doing simon? ? yes, just to flush out a little bit of what ber that was talking about, is delaying the spending cuts, down to the wire of the fiscal cliff negotiations. it is an absolute must across the potomac river at the pentagon. there would be a $55 million in spending, about 10% cut in many programs while a lot could be delayed, the most immediate contingency is notifying an estimated 800,000 civilian employees about furloughs in the new year. south carolina senator lindsay graham after he was contacted by secretary of defense leon panetta. >> he says if we do that, it will shoot the defense department in the head and we will have to send out 800,000 layoff notices at the beginning of the y
is now on the edge of the fiscal cliff. hours to go until the deadline and as we get closer in theory, the pentagon is getting ready to layoff quite literally thousands of employees because of the automatic spending cuts that go into effect if no deal is reached in d.c. at midnight. we have more on that fall out, hunter? >> how you doing simon? ? yes, just to flush out a little bit of what ber that was talking about, is delaying the spending cuts, down to the wire of the fiscal cliff...
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defense sector facing major cuts if we do go over the fiscal cliff. how that industry will be affected if we don't get a deal today, we'll talk about that after the break. stay with us. any way you want. fully customize it for your trading process -- from thought to trade, on every screen. and all in real time. which makes it just like having your own trading floor, right at your fingertips. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. try our easy-to-use scottrader streaming quotes. it's another reason more investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. >>> they say the biggest priority is making sure we deal with the debt in a serious way. the way they're behaving is their only priority is making sure that tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. >> there's no single issue that remains an impossible sticking point. the sticking point appears to be a willingness and interest, or frankly, the courage to close the deal. >> the deadline to get a deal done, steadily getting closer and closer. the defense industry wi
defense sector facing major cuts if we do go over the fiscal cliff. how that industry will be affected if we don't get a deal today, we'll talk about that after the break. stay with us. any way you want. fully customize it for your trading process -- from thought to trade, on every screen. and all in real time. which makes it just like having your own trading floor, right at your fingertips. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. try our easy-to-use scottrader...
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but avoiding the fiscal cliff is really not the goal here. cutting the deficit is. this is a case of gigantic political friendly fire in my view. we're targeting the wrong enemy. we should be targeting the deficit. >> i've read, dan, more carefully and it's extremely insightful. and one of the things that i take from you is that you're a markets guy who thinks about macro, and not just u.s. macro, but global macro. what i don't get about what you're saying now -- one thing i get very much about what you're saying now is a small deal doesn't solve anything except the immediate cliff problem and that's not the only problem we have. it's actually relatively minor, i agree with you. but if we engage in $500 billion fiscal contraction next year i think we're going to have a recession. as a guy who pays attention to macro, how does that help anybody? >> well, look, i actually -- one of the reasons i said, and it was a provocation of saying, the fiscal cliff, after the election, my view of where this was going was exactly where we are this morning. which is probably why yo
but avoiding the fiscal cliff is really not the goal here. cutting the deficit is. this is a case of gigantic political friendly fire in my view. we're targeting the wrong enemy. we should be targeting the deficit. >> i've read, dan, more carefully and it's extremely insightful. and one of the things that i take from you is that you're a markets guy who thinks about macro, and not just u.s. macro, but global macro. what i don't get about what you're saying now -- one thing i get very much...
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the fiscal cliff is scary. another recision, higher unemployment, economic slowdown. tax money taken out of the economy. those are major concerns. we're going to have to react as a business and it could result in cut backs. the fiscal cliff was meant to be something that nobody wanted to go anywhere near and here we are about to go off it. we really need our elected officials to figure this out, keep our economy growing and gives us some certainty about the future so we can make our plans as business leaders. we're all having such a great year in the gulf, we've decided to put aside our rivalry. 'cause all our states are great. and now is when the gulf gets even better. the beaches and waters couldn't be more beautiful. take a boat ride or just lay in the sun. enjoy the wildlife and natural beauty. and don't forget our amazing seafood. so come to the gulf, you'll have a great time. especially in alabama. you mean mississippi. that's florida. say louisiana or there's no dessert. brought to you by bp and all of us who call the gulf home. >>> welcome back. the dow jones
the fiscal cliff is scary. another recision, higher unemployment, economic slowdown. tax money taken out of the economy. those are major concerns. we're going to have to react as a business and it could result in cut backs. the fiscal cliff was meant to be something that nobody wanted to go anywhere near and here we are about to go off it. we really need our elected officials to figure this out, keep our economy growing and gives us some certainty about the future so we can make our plans as...
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on to the fiscal cliff this morning. the president cutting his vacation short in hawaii. the president plans to leave for washington tonight. congress expected to return on thursday. president, guys, not expected to actually arrive in washington until tomorrow morning. no talks scheduled that we know of as of yet. all the attention's going to turn to the senate, which tends to be more of a compromising body than the house is. >> yes. and the president is available in person if you should want to go over there and visit with him. or perhaps if he wants to visit with anybody else. the consensus seems to be if you get some sort of a deal, it's obviously not going to be the big deal. it will simply be something that extends the tax cuts for the vast majority of americans, at least those earning less than $250,000 a year. the consensus seems to be, carl, that if we don't get a deal by the second or third or fourth week, the super bowl week, we'll start to feel it in the economy. >> we had a notable sell-off. there is typically a bias on christmas eve, but the worst christmas e
on to the fiscal cliff this morning. the president cutting his vacation short in hawaii. the president plans to leave for washington tonight. congress expected to return on thursday. president, guys, not expected to actually arrive in washington until tomorrow morning. no talks scheduled that we know of as of yet. all the attention's going to turn to the senate, which tends to be more of a compromising body than the house is. >> yes. and the president is available in person if you should...
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>> the day of reckoning could be when we go off the fiscal cliff, everybody votes to have the tax cuts. everybody gets the political advantage of a tax cut so scared little rabbits don't have to worry about raising taxes. we'll have to get serious. your guys just gave us, it was depressing enough to go out and have two double cheeseburgers and a milk shake. it was awful, and it's about time. we need a plus. we need something to charge up this economy, and getting this done. robert zelic on our board on the campaign to fix the debt, you know, the former head of the world bank, he said america is one good debt deal away from being the dominant economy for the next 25 years in the entire world. >> so you believe it's going town lock -- taking away that uncertainty is going to unlock cap "x" and hiring and consumers to open up their wallet? you think it will make that much of a difference? >> i believe it will. how many other arrows do we have in our quiver? >> there's an optimistic thought. better have another cheeseburger, governor. good to see you, again. thank you. >> good to see you g
>> the day of reckoning could be when we go off the fiscal cliff, everybody votes to have the tax cuts. everybody gets the political advantage of a tax cut so scared little rabbits don't have to worry about raising taxes. we'll have to get serious. your guys just gave us, it was depressing enough to go out and have two double cheeseburgers and a milk shake. it was awful, and it's about time. we need a plus. we need something to charge up this economy, and getting this done. robert zelic...
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i would rather see a much bigger fiscal cliff in the way of government spending cuts. that's what we really need. but if we're not going to do that, we're not going to cut spending, then the middle class has to brace for the bad news. they have to pay for all this government and the best way to do it is with taxes. unfortunately, taxes on the rich are not going to work. they are already overtaxed. it's the middle class that's going to have to pay more if we want all this government. >> do you think they can, peter, without destroying the economy? because the question i asked extensively last week is why is a couple hundred dollar tax rise to the middle class a doom now, but during the clinton era, it was praised? >> well, people don't have the home equity they had back then and they don't have the stock market wealth they had back then. >> costs have gone up. >> inflation, inflation has -- look at how much gas costs now compared to what it cost back then. food is a lot more expensive. look, the economy is buckling under the weight of all this government. no, i don't th
i would rather see a much bigger fiscal cliff in the way of government spending cuts. that's what we really need. but if we're not going to do that, we're not going to cut spending, then the middle class has to brace for the bad news. they have to pay for all this government and the best way to do it is with taxes. unfortunately, taxes on the rich are not going to work. they are already overtaxed. it's the middle class that's going to have to pay more if we want all this government. >> do...
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president obama cutting short his annual vacation in hawaii to deal with the fiscal cliff. no sight of congressional leaders. they're not in town. investors getting a little bit nervous. will congress get it together in time? no talks that we know of are imminent. it was by at least one measure, the weakest holiday retail sales growth since the financial crisis back in 2008, but could a post-christmas holiday sales bounce be around the corner? >>> and what a year it has been for tech. gadgets and gizmos. apple, facebook, microsoft all have big news. will 2013 be a lucky year for the sector? which tech titans might lead the new trends? simon hobbs is in at the new york stock exchange. >> good afternoon. when president obama arrives back in d.c., can he prevent america falling over the fiscal cliff? house republicans haven't yet called their members back to washington. our chief political correspondent, john harwood, is with us. john, this feels very much like it might be the calm before the storm in more way than one. >> it could be if we go over the cliff and the storm woul
president obama cutting short his annual vacation in hawaii to deal with the fiscal cliff. no sight of congressional leaders. they're not in town. investors getting a little bit nervous. will congress get it together in time? no talks that we know of are imminent. it was by at least one measure, the weakest holiday retail sales growth since the financial crisis back in 2008, but could a post-christmas holiday sales bounce be around the corner? >>> and what a year it has been for tech....
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>> the day before christmas, of course, still no fiscal cliff resolution. the $500 billion in spending cuts and tax increases start on january 1st unless the white house and congress reach some sort of agreement. we're joined by former pennsylvania governor ed rendell, co-chair of the campaign to fix the debt. and a cnbc contributor. governor, happy holidays. good morning to you. >> good morning, guys. >> so we're sitting here wondering what can be done in the next seven days. even in your role, if you're having to reset expectations. >> sure. i think it's fair to say the campaign is disappointed. we're not going to -- unless lightning strikes, we're not going to get a big deal. we're going to get something that avoid the cliff. kicks the can down the road on the serious issues. the serious issues, the can gets kicked into the debt ceiling. president says he's not going to deal with the debt ceiling. who knows what's going to happen at that point. i think we blew an opportunity in the last seven weeks to really sit down, do something good for the country, d
>> the day before christmas, of course, still no fiscal cliff resolution. the $500 billion in spending cuts and tax increases start on january 1st unless the white house and congress reach some sort of agreement. we're joined by former pennsylvania governor ed rendell, co-chair of the campaign to fix the debt. and a cnbc contributor. governor, happy holidays. good morning to you. >> good morning, guys. >> so we're sitting here wondering what can be done in the next seven days....
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one in three americans have cut personal spending over fiscal cliff worries about the economy. >> i'm definitely shopping on a budget because i just wrote a book, and i had to spend a lot of money to get the book printed. so i have to be very careful. >> i guess we're always on a budget but we always exceed the budget. >> my budget is lower than last year. but it's going okay. i'm still able to get people little gifts here and there. >> we're spending a lot of money this year. we're buying everybody gifts this year. just because i guess it's almost random. >> notice the only one blowing the budget is the woman. notice most of those people we interviewed are guys, because who else waits to the last minute? back to you, joe. >> you're right. although i was a little early this year. but i did it the right way this year, jane, i took her with me. because the humiliation of returning something, you know, four times a year, anniversary, birthday, christmas -- >> would you call my husband and tell him that? >> he should take you, right? it wasn't easy. physically i could carry her. >> any ti
one in three americans have cut personal spending over fiscal cliff worries about the economy. >> i'm definitely shopping on a budget because i just wrote a book, and i had to spend a lot of money to get the book printed. so i have to be very careful. >> i guess we're always on a budget but we always exceed the budget. >> my budget is lower than last year. but it's going okay. i'm still able to get people little gifts here and there. >> we're spending a lot of money this...
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. >> the seeds of the fiscal cliff were planted in 2001 with the ten-year window for the bush tax cuts. secondly, look, you're not going to like this, rick, but the fact is the president has come more than halfway in terms -- he hasn't come anywhere. he's come halfway on 7%. he hasn't come halfway on the other side, the entitlement side, the reform side. we're going to a too light deal that's too small. >> a lot of people are saying he wants to go over the cliff because it gives him more leverage. >> yes. >> his treasury secretary said that. tim geithner said that on cnbc. >> right. >> well, look, i mean, first of all, i don't believe he wants to go over the cliff, but if we go over the cliff, the economic downturn only occurs as others have said in this very segment if we stay over. if we go over and quickly reverse the damage. it's not good. it's bad, but it's a lot better than the recessionary scenario of staying over. >> rick? >> i listened. doesn't change my mind what. are you going to be saying four years from today? >> we didn't expect it to. >> matt, what do you make of what's
. >> the seeds of the fiscal cliff were planted in 2001 with the ten-year window for the bush tax cuts. secondly, look, you're not going to like this, rick, but the fact is the president has come more than halfway in terms -- he hasn't come anywhere. he's come halfway on 7%. he hasn't come halfway on the other side, the entitlement side, the reform side. we're going to a too light deal that's too small. >> a lot of people are saying he wants to go over the cliff because it gives him...
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we acted to put off the fiscal cliff several months ago with a bill that without objection tend all of those bush tax rates into the future and would turn off the sequester by switching defense cuts over to domestic programs. democrats, of course have no intention of doing that. especially after president obama won the election. senate democratic leadership aide tells me that will remains a 50/50 chance we will get a mini deal temporary extension of tax cuts under $250,000 before the january 1 deadline when we would go over the cliff. will are no assurances of that. a white house official told me as president obama prepares to fly back to conduct and participate in the negotiations at the end, there has been no progress over the holiday weekend. michelle, i'm afraid that people who are looking for a deal and looking for a deal by december 31, all hope is not lost. it is not looking good at the moment. >> let's go back to this hitting the debt ceiling on monday. we learned of this because treasury secretary tim good night mother sent a letter to the honorable harry reid majority leader.
we acted to put off the fiscal cliff several months ago with a bill that without objection tend all of those bush tax rates into the future and would turn off the sequester by switching defense cuts over to domestic programs. democrats, of course have no intention of doing that. especially after president obama won the election. senate democratic leadership aide tells me that will remains a 50/50 chance we will get a mini deal temporary extension of tax cuts under $250,000 before the january 1...
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. >>> the top story, the looming fiscal cliff. the top story really is the brioni tie -- >> i wanted to make a good impression. >> you did. no, if you haven't heard there's a thing called the fiscal cliff. it's -- tax hikes and -- spending cuts that will in come on january 1. and they have done nothing to avert this. both parties say a partial agreement is probably the most that can be expected before january 1. here's a look back at some negotiations that we saw and some key developments that no one has risen above. >> the fiscal cliff, yes, it is still loom figure you're wondering. >> i think we could be taken to the brink again. >> the market is responding to the pending fiscal cliff. >> businesses have stopped investing. business has stopped spending. business has stopped hiring. >> nobody knows what's going to happen. there's outlandish guesses on both sides. >> it wouldn't surprise me if we go past january 1. >> you can't tax your way out of this. you can't cut spending your way out of this. you can't grow your way out of th
. >>> the top story, the looming fiscal cliff. the top story really is the brioni tie -- >> i wanted to make a good impression. >> you did. no, if you haven't heard there's a thing called the fiscal cliff. it's -- tax hikes and -- spending cuts that will in come on january 1. and they have done nothing to avert this. both parties say a partial agreement is probably the most that can be expected before january 1. here's a look back at some negotiations that we saw and some...
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it if we get close to a fiscal cliff deal at all? representative peter welch with insight when we're back in two. let's give thanks - for an idea. a grand idea called america. the idea that if you work hard, if you have a dream, if you work with your neighbors... you can do most anything. this led to other ideas like liberty and rock 'n' roll. to free markets, free enterprise, and free refills. it put a man on the moon and a phone in your pocket. our country's gone through a lot over the centuries and a half. but this idea isn't fragile. when times get tough, it rallies us as one. every day, more people believe in the american idea and when they do, the dream comes true. we're grateful to be a part of it. omnipotent of opportunity. you know how to mix business... with business. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle. and go. you can even take a full-size or above. and still pay the mid-size price. i could get used to this. [ male announcer ] yes, you could business pro. yes, you could
it if we get close to a fiscal cliff deal at all? representative peter welch with insight when we're back in two. let's give thanks - for an idea. a grand idea called america. the idea that if you work hard, if you have a dream, if you work with your neighbors... you can do most anything. this led to other ideas like liberty and rock 'n' roll. to free markets, free enterprise, and free refills. it put a man on the moon and a phone in your pocket. our country's gone through a lot over the...
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cliff in just three days because of those automatic spending cuts to the industry. our jane welles has a look at what's ahead for defense in 2013. >> reporter: as the u.s. leaves the fog of war, the defense industry enters the fog of deficits. no industry is more vulnerable to the budget acts, and here are three predictions for 2013. first, the f-35, lockheed's joint strike fighter will be just fine. the most expensive program in history has been hit with cost overruns and production delays and concern from foreign buyers over its price. but lockheed and the pentagon have come to terms to buy another round of the jets for nearly $4 billion. morgan stanley calls the f-35 the single most important investment debate over lockheed stock. second, cash will be king. as defense spending slows, analysts say many defense companies will reduce share buyback programs and conservative capital. and look to international customers to make up for lost business at home. third, it's a bird, it's a plane, it's big brother. as criticism rises over the use of drone strikes by the obama
cliff in just three days because of those automatic spending cuts to the industry. our jane welles has a look at what's ahead for defense in 2013. >> reporter: as the u.s. leaves the fog of war, the defense industry enters the fog of deficits. no industry is more vulnerable to the budget acts, and here are three predictions for 2013. first, the f-35, lockheed's joint strike fighter will be just fine. the most expensive program in history has been hit with cost overruns and production...
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eastern time today in a last ditch effort to avoid the fiscal cliff. the house majority leader eric cantor is now telling members to be prepared to work through january 2nd. both sides still far apart, however, on taxes and spending cuts. senate majority leader harry reid says prospects for a deal by monday are still unlikely. there was a lot of movement, motion for not a lot of action. >> where were you yesterday? >> i was here. we were together. >> were we ever with our -- no. but there were duelling senate leaders just -- first mcconnell came on. and he said -- did you see either one of those? >> i did. >> did you see harry reid? >> there's no chance of -- >> but if you think -- i want to rise above. there was so little of anything close to that yesterday other than just the -- i mean, people at home must be like, it's the endless blaming and finger pointing and, you know, when one side says it's all the other side's fault and all the other side comes on and says people at home aren't going, wow, i believe you, harry. or i believe i, mitch. they're
eastern time today in a last ditch effort to avoid the fiscal cliff. the house majority leader eric cantor is now telling members to be prepared to work through january 2nd. both sides still far apart, however, on taxes and spending cuts. senate majority leader harry reid says prospects for a deal by monday are still unlikely. there was a lot of movement, motion for not a lot of action. >> where were you yesterday? >> i was here. we were together. >> were we ever with our --...
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but that's cutting pretty close, as you can imagine, because we go over the fiscal cliff as of monday night without a deal. so pretty tight timeline there. >> what is the thinking at this point, dana bash, that most congressional leaders feel like going over the cliff, whether they will say it publicly is one thing, but going over the cliff might be better, because on the other end of it, you can vote for tax cuts versus raising taxes for a certain number of americans, politically speaking, isn't that a better scenario for them? >> it may politically be a better secenario for some congresspeople. but it will be a catastrophe because of public opinion, the way markets would respond on january 2nd. i think politically obviously it saves a little face, particularly for some republicans who don't want to vote for tax increases. taxes increase automatically, but it isn't without consequences and we're trying to get a sense today -- the meeting that you mentioned, 3:00 p.m. at the white house, congressional leaders with the president and vice president. coming out of that, i think we may ha
but that's cutting pretty close, as you can imagine, because we go over the fiscal cliff as of monday night without a deal. so pretty tight timeline there. >> what is the thinking at this point, dana bash, that most congressional leaders feel like going over the cliff, whether they will say it publicly is one thing, but going over the cliff might be better, because on the other end of it, you can vote for tax cuts versus raising taxes for a certain number of americans, politically...
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. >>> and six days and counting until we hit the fiscal cliff. the president is cutting short his hawaiian vacation to go back to work. we'll look at whether a deal is likely to get done. >>> and not what people in alabama wanted for christmas. tornadoes ripped through the south. >> i prayed to god as loud as i could and i was just praying for my safety. and i knew that -- i prayed that the church stayed put. rsal] ♪ everybody well don't you know it's me now? ♪ ♪ yeah who's it, who's it huh? ♪ ♪ willy's back with a brand new beat now, ♪ ♪ yeah doin' it doin' it up! ♪ heyyy yeah, tryin' to bite my style! ♪ ♪ heyyy yeah, how you like me now? ♪ ♪ na na na na na na na na ♪ and everybody go uh! >>> we told you last hour president obama is spending his last few hours in hawaii before returng early to washington. he's expected to arrive tomorrow, just five days ahead of the fiscal cliff, which includes an across the board tax hike that congress has tried but failed to undo. cnn's dana bash is with us from washington, our senior
. >>> and six days and counting until we hit the fiscal cliff. the president is cutting short his hawaiian vacation to go back to work. we'll look at whether a deal is likely to get done. >>> and not what people in alabama wanted for christmas. tornadoes ripped through the south. >> i prayed to god as loud as i could and i was just praying for my safety. and i knew that -- i prayed that the church stayed put. rsal] ♪ everybody well don't you know it's me now? ♪ ♪...
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to try to avoid heading off the fiscal cliff, president obama and the first lady kept up a christmas tradition. they visited marines at a base in hawaii thanking them for their service. mrs. obama and their daughters, by the way, won't cut short their vacation. they're staying in hawaii while dad flies home. >>> a trip to a christmas party with the family took an unexpected turn for my next guest and his wife when they ran into this -- >> oh, my god, we need to go. it's right there. >> his name is david and he joins me now by phone. welcome, david. >> hello, how are you? >> pretty good. you're driving to a christmas party and you see a huge, frightening tornado in front of you. what went through your mind? >> well, the first thing was, i asked my wife to pick up the camera and start getting some footage of it because i know that local news stations and everything were wanting to see what was going on. at that point, we just kind of drove as fast as we possibly could to get out of the way. >> i was going to ask you, so did you stop for a second to shoot these pictures and then drive o
to try to avoid heading off the fiscal cliff, president obama and the first lady kept up a christmas tradition. they visited marines at a base in hawaii thanking them for their service. mrs. obama and their daughters, by the way, won't cut short their vacation. they're staying in hawaii while dad flies home. >>> a trip to a christmas party with the family took an unexpected turn for my next guest and his wife when they ran into this -- >> oh, my god, we need to go. it's right...
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the fiscal cliff is a cut in taxes and a cut in spending which should relieve some of the spending toward the debt limit. it is a factor in terms of long range planning for the united states government. but actually going over the cliff might buy some more time. so i think what secretary geithner was doing was sort of issuing a warning saying we should take care of this now. whatever the plan is in the last five days or even if it's right after the new year should probably take into account the fact we're going to need more room under that debt ceiling at some point. >> jonathan allen, we'll rely on you throughout this crisis to see what's going on. thanks for joining us this morning. >> take care, drew. >>> he was hoping he'd be home by christmas but former president george h.w. bush is still in intensive care at a houston hospital. he's got an elevated fever. the nation's 41st president is on a liquid diet. he's listed as guarded. he's the 88-year-old bush coping with christmas in the hospital? well, his spokesman quotes him as saying i'm determined not to be grumpy with all of this. >>
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but six days before the fiscal cliff, president obama cutting short his christmas vacation on the off chance he and congress might be able to cut some kind of deal. he left. but brianna keilar is still there in honolulu. when's the president leaving and why does he really expect to avoid the cliff? >> reporter: i will be leaving as well when the president leaves, don. he is expected. he will be leaving tonight. that's local time. so he'll be traveling overnight and arriving back in the d.c. area late thursday morning. as you know, the senate reconvenes tomorrow. so he'll be going back as that is happening. we heard from him last week as he was heading out to hawaii. he said, see you next week. we had a thought that this was probably going to happen. he is officially now going back. he said last week, don, that he is still optimistic that something can get done. the other issue here, though, is you can imagine, how bad it would look if he go over the cliff and there's a lot of work to make sure that doesn't happen. he's here in hawaii on vacation. that would look terrible for him. so o
but six days before the fiscal cliff, president obama cutting short his christmas vacation on the off chance he and congress might be able to cut some kind of deal. he left. but brianna keilar is still there in honolulu. when's the president leaving and why does he really expect to avoid the cliff? >> reporter: i will be leaving as well when the president leaves, don. he is expected. he will be leaving tonight. that's local time. so he'll be traveling overnight and arriving back in the...
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off that fiscal cliff. the deadline's tuesday. if the deal isn't reached, taxes will go up on just about everybody. and massive spending cuts will kick in. >>> in india, the young woman gang-raped on a new delhi bus is dead. doctors say she died peacefully at that singapore hospital where she was being treated. authorities plan to add murder charges against the six suspects arrested in that rape. the charges will be filed thursday. angry protesters have been demanding justice and more protection for women. and police expect more demonstrations in the days to come. >>> four people are dead after a plane crashed at the moscow airport. four others were injured. eight people were on board, all of them crew members when the plane overshot the runway. don't go away. at 2:00 p.m. eastern, the top stories of the day including that growing outrage over russia's adoption ban. hundreds of americans are frantic after being told their adoptions are not going to go through. we'll also take a look back at the year in politics and the fierce batt
off that fiscal cliff. the deadline's tuesday. if the deal isn't reached, taxes will go up on just about everybody. and massive spending cuts will kick in. >>> in india, the young woman gang-raped on a new delhi bus is dead. doctors say she died peacefully at that singapore hospital where she was being treated. authorities plan to add murder charges against the six suspects arrested in that rape. the charges will be filed thursday. angry protesters have been demanding justice and more...
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president obama cuts his hawaiian vacation short to deal with the fiscal cliff. it is already too late? good morning, 7:00 in the east. i'm alina cho. >> and i'm drew griffin. soledad o'brien is off today. "starting point" begins right now. >>> our starting point, a cruel one. a one-two christmas punch from mother nature. tornadoes and blizzards tearing through the south and midwest. >> oh, my god. we need to go. it's right there. >> mobile, alabama, took a real beating. a twister blowing up transformers, leaving more than 25,000 customers without power. reports to damage to homes, a high school, and church. >> it came in behind the church right there, and then all green fluorescent lighting and popping transformers left and right. and we heard the crashing and everything and the power went out. >> i prayed to god as loud as i could, and i was just praying for my safety, and i knew the church was shaking. i just prayed that the church stayed put. >> here is the other half of this story, blizzard conditions blanketing much of the midwest and the northeast will get
president obama cuts his hawaiian vacation short to deal with the fiscal cliff. it is already too late? good morning, 7:00 in the east. i'm alina cho. >> and i'm drew griffin. soledad o'brien is off today. "starting point" begins right now. >>> our starting point, a cruel one. a one-two christmas punch from mother nature. tornadoes and blizzards tearing through the south and midwest. >> oh, my god. we need to go. it's right there. >> mobile, alabama, took a...
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not going to be able to do as much. >> we're looking in six days of going over the fiscal cliff. $600 million in tax increases and spending cuts. >> nobody wants to do that. >> i think we all agree and no talks by all accounts by the president and members of congress. >> the president went -- >> and the president was playing golf in honolulu. listen, i was working on christmas. with all due respect. should congress have taken a break? >> no. >> there are huge implications here. we have to wait on the senate at this point. and that's -- that's our challenge. we did send a bill to them in -- a couple of months ago in august. although now it's four months ago. we sent a bill to them saying let's extend '01, '03 for the time being so we can work on real tax reform. they need to send that back to us. it's true speaker boehner brought another bill for consideration to the house majority. but that's just -- >> and they rejected it. >> that's just moving the hot potato around. nothing is getting done. >> if you look at it, the house has passed a budget for three years in a row. the senate has
not going to be able to do as much. >> we're looking in six days of going over the fiscal cliff. $600 million in tax increases and spending cuts. >> nobody wants to do that. >> i think we all agree and no talks by all accounts by the president and members of congress. >> the president went -- >> and the president was playing golf in honolulu. listen, i was working on christmas. with all due respect. should congress have taken a break? >> no. >> there...
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would you vote for that as an alternative to going over the fiscal cliff? >> i would have voted just to extend the tax cuts for 99.8% or whatever it was of americans that was john boehner's plan "b." a couple of things are either being misreported or inaccurately reported because what gets in the way of the president's plan is the constitution of the united states. and the good thing about this meeting is that the focus is now firmly on the united states senate where it should have been all these months. the house acted a long time ago to extend all the tax cuts and take care of sequestration. the senate has given speeches. >> you're referring to the fact that revenue issues are supposed to generate in the house. right now, both speaker boehner and the president say it's between reid and mcconnell which does raise the question, whatever procedural and constitutional issues, which are profound. are you concerned as a republican, someone who is close to speaker boehner, if we go over the fiscal cliff, that republicans will get the blame? >> well, of course th
would you vote for that as an alternative to going over the fiscal cliff? >> i would have voted just to extend the tax cuts for 99.8% or whatever it was of americans that was john boehner's plan "b." a couple of things are either being misreported or inaccurately reported because what gets in the way of the president's plan is the constitution of the united states. and the good thing about this meeting is that the focus is now firmly on the united states senate where it should...
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. >> we are dangerously close to the fiscal cliff. now, in all fairness, not all of it hits on new year's day but some of it does. the white house, we have a white house source who has said this. let me just read this to you. it says we believe very strongly a reasonable package can get majorities in both houses. the only thing that would prevent it is if senator mcconnell and speaker boehner don't cooperate. this is from the white house yesterday. do you believe that to be the case? >> no, i don't believe that to be the case. listen, a year ago august when the president was negotiating with the speaker, they were very close to the big deal that needs to be struck. and this isn't a one party or a one house problem. this is leaders of both parties and all branches of the government are not willing to make the deal that they know they have to make, and everybody wants their stuff but doesn't want to give up, you know, what they don't want to give up. >> you know, we're showing pictures right now of john boehner and president obama. john
. >> we are dangerously close to the fiscal cliff. now, in all fairness, not all of it hits on new year's day but some of it does. the white house, we have a white house source who has said this. let me just read this to you. it says we believe very strongly a reasonable package can get majorities in both houses. the only thing that would prevent it is if senator mcconnell and speaker boehner don't cooperate. this is from the white house yesterday. do you believe that to be the case?...
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. >>> we talked about the effect of hitting the fiscal cliff on american taxpayers. what about businesss? what about businesses? rick newman of u.s. news and world reports tells us they're cutting back already. >> to say that business leaders are anxious i think is an understatement. i think they're thoroughly disgusted because you couldn't run a business like this, and they all know that. it is just kind of driving them crazy. but business leaders have been watching this for a long time, don. unlike a lot of consumers who may have just started paying attention over the last couple of weeks. business leaders have known this is coming for a long time. they know how ugly and dysfunctional it was in 2011 when we went through something similar with the debt ceiling. and they have more or less been expecting the same thing. so what we have seen over the last couple of months is that business activity has really slowed down. >> rick newman, u.s. news and world reports. why don't we remind you once again, that meeting is under way at the white house. at the white house, bet
. >>> we talked about the effect of hitting the fiscal cliff on american taxpayers. what about businesss? what about businesses? rick newman of u.s. news and world reports tells us they're cutting back already. >> to say that business leaders are anxious i think is an understatement. i think they're thoroughly disgusted because you couldn't run a business like this, and they all know that. it is just kind of driving them crazy. but business leaders have been watching this for a...
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do we know if the president sen gauged in talks or negotiations regarding the fiscal cliff? >> reporter: we know the white house is at this point, suzanne. it's really the white house and senate democrats who are talking at this point. congressional democrats and republicans are not talking, and this is important to note as the senate is set to reconvene on thursday. at some point take up some sort of measure that harry reid will have cobbled together hoping to get some republican support. but right now it is possible, of course, to resolve this. it's also possible according to a lot of sources that we're talking to that we do go over the cliff, but at this point the white house talking to senate democrats about what their proposal is that they'll be putting out here in the nex week. >> if there was some break through i'm assuming the president would cut his vacation short and go back to washington? is that what you understand? >> reporter: they haven't made it official, suzanne, but i think that is the expectation. talking with sources. it's not really a matter of if the pr
do we know if the president sen gauged in talks or negotiations regarding the fiscal cliff? >> reporter: we know the white house is at this point, suzanne. it's really the white house and senate democrats who are talking at this point. congressional democrats and republicans are not talking, and this is important to note as the senate is set to reconvene on thursday. at some point take up some sort of measure that harry reid will have cobbled together hoping to get some republican...
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this is the final day of the fiscal cliff countdown. the possibility of tax hikes, spending cuts, and a recession all looming at midnight. democrats and republicans turning to their so-called closers to cut a compromise deal. vice president joe biden, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell working behind closed doors, two men who have worked together for 20 years. the ho use and senate back in session in just a few hours. we're not seeing much progress. one significant stumbling block has been sidestepped. republicans reported dropping their demand to slash social security cost of living increases, the chain cpi that had been briefly on the table. what are the chances we'll get the deal done today? let's listen to republican congressman jason chaffetz earlier on "starting point." >> the united states senate hasn't passed a budge net four years. they have not brought up a single thing for vote on this particular bill. come on, the senate has got to do their job. that's how it works around here. >> more of the same old blame game. senator
this is the final day of the fiscal cliff countdown. the possibility of tax hikes, spending cuts, and a recession all looming at midnight. democrats and republicans turning to their so-called closers to cut a compromise deal. vice president joe biden, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell working behind closed doors, two men who have worked together for 20 years. the ho use and senate back in session in just a few hours. we're not seeing much progress. one significant stumbling block has been...
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what else is at stake in the fiscal cliff? let's look at some other issues, things that we're not sure will be in a deal that comes out this week. at the top of that list, government spending cuts. that's about 8% to 10% in cuts to most every federal agency. also a pay cut for medicare doctors of 27% that would hit after january 1st. finally, don, there are a slew of other tax hikes. the alternative minimum tax is one that people talk about. the estate tax. these are all things that would affect average americans and which would hit on january 1st. so the fiscal cliff, it might be even bigger than people realize. don? >> lisa, thank you very much. >>> we've got a lot more planned for you this saturday night. here's what else is ahead. as our lawmakers wrestle with u.s. gun violence, chicago hits an awful milestone. 500 murders this year and counting. what's to blame? a former gang member and chicago's police superintendent join me live. >>> plus, president obama could tap this republican to lead the defense department. but not
what else is at stake in the fiscal cliff? let's look at some other issues, things that we're not sure will be in a deal that comes out this week. at the top of that list, government spending cuts. that's about 8% to 10% in cuts to most every federal agency. also a pay cut for medicare doctors of 27% that would hit after january 1st. finally, don, there are a slew of other tax hikes. the alternative minimum tax is one that people talk about. the estate tax. these are all things that would...
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just eight days until america goes off the fiscal cliff. with both sides on holiday break, all we're getting is finger pointing. some republicans say the scenario that's unfolding is part of a white house scheme. >> when i listen to the president, i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. i think he sees a political victory at the bottom cliff. gets additional tax revenue for new programs, to cut the military which democrats have been calling for for years and blame republicans for it. >> white house correspond respondent brianna keilar traveling live with the president, joins us from honolulu, hawaii. i suspect this is a working vacation for the president. >> it is what of a working vacation. he is always keeping his on eye on things. but there are not a lot of discussions going on. the white house no longer really having any substantive conversations with house speaker john boehner or senate minority leader mitch mcconnell which is key in finding something to get through the senate and perhaps because of
just eight days until america goes off the fiscal cliff. with both sides on holiday break, all we're getting is finger pointing. some republicans say the scenario that's unfolding is part of a white house scheme. >> when i listen to the president, i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. i think he sees a political victory at the bottom cliff. gets additional tax revenue for new programs, to cut the military which democrats have been calling for for...
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what else is at stake in the fiscal cliff? let's look at some other issues, things that we're not sure will be in a deal that comes out this week. at the top of that list, government spending cuts. that's about 8% to 10% in cuts to most every federal agency. also a pay cut for medicare doctors of 27% that would hit after january 1st. finally, don, there are a slew of other tax hikes. the alternative minimum tax is one that people talk about. the estate tax. these are all things that would affect average americans and which would hit on january 1st. so the fiscal cliff, it might be even bigger than people realize. don? >> lisa, thank you very much. >>> we've got a lot more planned for you this saturday night. here's what else is ahead. as our lawmakers wrestle with u.s. gun violence, chicago hits an awful milestone. 500 murders this year and counting. what's to blame? a former gang member and chicago's police superintendent join me live. >>> plus, president obama could tap this republican to lead the defense department. but not
what else is at stake in the fiscal cliff? let's look at some other issues, things that we're not sure will be in a deal that comes out this week. at the top of that list, government spending cuts. that's about 8% to 10% in cuts to most every federal agency. also a pay cut for medicare doctors of 27% that would hit after january 1st. finally, don, there are a slew of other tax hikes. the alternative minimum tax is one that people talk about. the estate tax. these are all things that would...
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so we have to have a debate over bigger issues than the fiscal cliff on taxes and spending. why we can't come together in the short-term for something that could hurt us in our short-term pocketbooks, it's delaying a bigger conversation that's going to have to be had. >> that's what congress does. >> i want one name. who is the savior who is going to swoop in and convince everybody to do their jobs? roland? >> jesus. you need jesus to come down and blow like lazarus and blow breath into these dead, lifeless bodies. >> if you think i'm beginning to follow jesus with steve louisiana tor ret, you're crazy. >> sorry, baby. can't top jesus. >> thank you so much. we'll be right back. [ nyquil bottle ] you know i relieve coughs, sneezing, fevers... [ tylenol bottle ] me too! and nasal co [ tissue box ] he said nasal congestion. yeah...i heard him. [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symptom nighttime relieves nasal congestion. nyquil® cold and flu doesn't. >>> more good economic news this morning when can tcomes to new home sales. they are up for the month of november and th
so we have to have a debate over bigger issues than the fiscal cliff on taxes and spending. why we can't come together in the short-term for something that could hurt us in our short-term pocketbooks, it's delaying a bigger conversation that's going to have to be had. >> that's what congress does. >> i want one name. who is the savior who is going to swoop in and convince everybody to do their jobs? roland? >> jesus. you need jesus to come down and blow like lazarus and blow...
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that's how the markets will probably react to the fiscal cliff deal. yes, to be sure, the worst effects have been put off, but only for a while. there's still those spending cuts. they've been kicked down the road by two months. there's the $16.4 trillion debt ceiling, which has to be raised. that's been kicked off a couple of months. and then you've got the appropriations, the whole budget process, which will come back before the spring is over. so time and again, the markets in europe are saying we've seen how difficult it is to do these deals. look at what happened with greece, with bailouts, with sovereign debt crises, with the euro zone. it was only at the very last possible minute that compromise was reached, that the big bargain was done. and if you look at the united states, even at a time of, a moment when really both sides needed to do more than the minimum, the markets will be saying they failed to do so. so, yes, they will be relieved, there won't be any immediate reaction, but the markets are certainly putting the politicians on notice tha
that's how the markets will probably react to the fiscal cliff deal. yes, to be sure, the worst effects have been put off, but only for a while. there's still those spending cuts. they've been kicked down the road by two months. there's the $16.4 trillion debt ceiling, which has to be raised. that's been kicked off a couple of months. and then you've got the appropriations, the whole budget process, which will come back before the spring is over. so time and again, the markets in europe are...
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> joining us now to examine the david gregory interview and the coverage of this fiscal cliff showdown. bob cusack manager of "the hill." what does it say about the state of the budgetary wars that president obama chose to go on a sunday talk show. >> he is doing this interview why congress is trying to do it. very critical of congress and i think this interview wasn't exactly combative. he challenged him on it. >> who challenged who? >> david gregory challenged obama on some points but made $1 trillion in cuts, he also vowed to cut the deficit in half in 2009. that has not happened. >> compared david gregory we saw at the top of the show waving that magazine at wain lapierre. this was a low-key interview. >> meek and weak. i didn't find david gregory, i think he lost his punch over this short-lived vacation. a number of points he didn't press the president hard enough. >> the president gave short answers. >> but there's really no excuse. >> the pomp and the ceremony. on the other hand, and you've had experience covering barack obama going back to chicago, it can be hard to interrupt d
> joining us now to examine the david gregory interview and the coverage of this fiscal cliff showdown. bob cusack manager of "the hill." what does it say about the state of the budgetary wars that president obama chose to go on a sunday talk show. >> he is doing this interview why congress is trying to do it. very critical of congress and i think this interview wasn't exactly combative. he challenged him on it. >> who challenged who? >> david gregory challenged...
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we begin with this morning's fiscal cliff and the drama that now shifts to the house. overnight the senate overwhelmingly passed a compromised measure. it it delays the spending cuts that could have plunged the nation back into a recession. for most americans, taxes would stay the same r for almost everyone but top earners. but the measure is now up to the house. lawmakers take up the matter in two hours and could vote later today. and republican leaders in the house aren't making any promises that it will pass. this morning both parties say more work needs to be done. >> i'm disappointed that we weren't able to make the grand bargain as we have tried to do for so long, but we tried. if we do nothing, the threat of recession is very real. >> we have done some good for the country. we have taken care of the revenue side of this debate. and now it's time to get serious about reducing washington's out of control spending. that's a debate the american people want and it's the debate we'll have next and it's a debate republicans are ready for. >> we're covering all the angl
we begin with this morning's fiscal cliff and the drama that now shifts to the house. overnight the senate overwhelmingly passed a compromised measure. it it delays the spending cuts that could have plunged the nation back into a recession. for most americans, taxes would stay the same r for almost everyone but top earners. but the measure is now up to the house. lawmakers take up the matter in two hours and could vote later today. and republican leaders in the house aren't making any promises...
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is now just six days away from the so-called fiscal cliff. and a mad scramble is on here in washington to avoid the drastic tax hikes and spending cuts that many fear will plunge the economy back into recession. president obama flies back from hawaii tonight to be ready if the senate comes back with a plan when it returns to work tomorrow. and house leaders are huddling with members on stand-by to return. senior congressional correspondent dana bash is following all of it for us. what are you hearing? >> there was a conference call of course members of the house leadership even, they're back in their districts, but there was a conference call today among those house republican leaders trying to figure out if and when the house should come back into session. two republican sources tell me they did not make a decision on this call. it's still up in the air. and a big reason for that is if anything can get done in the next six days, the ball is in the senate's court. the capitol is a ghost town. neither chamber in session. an eerie calm since th
is now just six days away from the so-called fiscal cliff. and a mad scramble is on here in washington to avoid the drastic tax hikes and spending cuts that many fear will plunge the economy back into recession. president obama flies back from hawaii tonight to be ready if the senate comes back with a plan when it returns to work tomorrow. and house leaders are huddling with members on stand-by to return. senior congressional correspondent dana bash is following all of it for us. what are you...
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that fiscal cliff we've already reached. that is going to be in this starting point deal. now, things we're less clear on. for example, the budget cuts that are impending for most of government, and also the debt ceiling. those are two items that we think may not be in a deal. may be kicked down the road. either those budget cuts will hit and will last, or there will be a different fix later. that's where things seem to be right now, but those are a little bit more up in the air. >> lisa, does that extension for tax cuts for everyone over $250,000, is that for households or for individuals? >> that $250,000 is for individuals. >> okay, okay. i see. so how long do lawmakers have to make a deal at this point? >> right. i just want to make sure we're clear. they want to extend the tax cuts for people whose family income is under $250,000. so people making above that would see their taxes increase under that potential deal. so how long do they have? well, until the very last minute, and maybe even beyond. the truth is, this deadline has always been seen at january 1st. monday
that fiscal cliff we've already reached. that is going to be in this starting point deal. now, things we're less clear on. for example, the budget cuts that are impending for most of government, and also the debt ceiling. those are two items that we think may not be in a deal. may be kicked down the road. either those budget cuts will hit and will last, or there will be a different fix later. that's where things seem to be right now, but those are a little bit more up in the air. >> lisa,...
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cliff. we are at the very edge. senate leaders are working through the weekend trying to reach a deal before the deadline. today president obama called on lawmakers to meet their deadlines and responsibilities and forge a compromise to avoid tax hike and spending cuts from taking effect. lisa desjardins is live on capitol hill. what's going on right now? >> reporter: right now it's all behind closed doors, martin. what we just have learned in the last hour, in fact, what reporters have seen here, a surprise. house speaker john boehner was here at the capitol. we're still trying to sort out exactly why he was here, but he wasn't here for very long, it seems. he left in the last hour. also, we were able to see some of senator mcconnell's staffers. i was able to speak to one of them coming in and out of these kind of closed-door planning meetings. he said they've been here since 9:00 a.m. they plan to work all day and we may see his boss, senator mcconnell, later today. that shows us kind of wh
cliff. we are at the very edge. senate leaders are working through the weekend trying to reach a deal before the deadline. today president obama called on lawmakers to meet their deadlines and responsibilities and forge a compromise to avoid tax hike and spending cuts from taking effect. lisa desjardins is live on capitol hill. what's going on right now? >> reporter: right now it's all behind closed doors, martin. what we just have learned in the last hour, in fact, what reporters have...
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the fiscal cliff negotiations. if no deal is reached in one week, the tax cuts enacted under president bush will expire and 1.2 trillion in spending cuts will automatically go into effect. if we do go over the fiscal cliff, how will it affect you from your paycheck to your retirement accounts? we're going to give you all the tips you need to protect yourself. here to do that this morning is ry ryan mac, president of opt middle school management. >> kudos for being able to pronounce that honolulu merry christmas saying. >> i don't think i can do it again. ahah! let's start with your paycheck as it applies to the fiscal cliff. if we go off the fiscal live how will mooirn and everybody's paycheck be affected? the majority of the paycheck won't be afeektded until 2014 when people file for 2013 stackses. there are certain things that are impacted right away like the payroll tax cut. for individuals earning about $50,000 a year, they'll be having to pay about $85 less because of the payroll tax cut will be expiring so th
the fiscal cliff negotiations. if no deal is reached in one week, the tax cuts enacted under president bush will expire and 1.2 trillion in spending cuts will automatically go into effect. if we do go over the fiscal cliff, how will it affect you from your paycheck to your retirement accounts? we're going to give you all the tips you need to protect yourself. here to do that this morning is ry ryan mac, president of opt middle school management. >> kudos for being able to pronounce that...
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brian, thanks a lot. >>> now for the crisis we all know is coming, the fiscal cliff. the combination of tax hikes and spending cuts hit in just five days. you need to take a deep breath. you probably won't notice much, if anything right away, even if congress and president can't reach a deal. jessica yellin is joining us. i have not talked to a soul in the last week who believes that they are actually going to get a deal before january 1st. what is the temperature at the white house at this point? >> reporter: negotiations, candy. what do you mean by negotiations? i can actually report right now, thanks to our own ted baron and dana bash that harry reid, the senate majority leader, and minority leader mitch mcconnell are meeting right now as we speak. perhaps there could be incremental progress. but as you well know, time is running out and the president today spent his day behind closed doors. he did cut his vacation short after he came home from hawaii to at least be here and try to put on some kind of an agreement and as we go over the fiscal cliff, both sides seem
brian, thanks a lot. >>> now for the crisis we all know is coming, the fiscal cliff. the combination of tax hikes and spending cuts hit in just five days. you need to take a deep breath. you probably won't notice much, if anything right away, even if congress and president can't reach a deal. jessica yellin is joining us. i have not talked to a soul in the last week who believes that they are actually going to get a deal before january 1st. what is the temperature at the white house at...
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cliff, the massive tax increases and spending cuts to take place in four days. the president and vice president will be meeting with house speaker john boehner, minority leader nancy pelosi, senate majority leader harry reid, and minority leader mitch mcconnell. and watching all this, jessica yellin live at the white house. jess, what do we think is going to happen here? >> reporter: well, based on the expectations around town, the thought is the president and democrats will lay out an alternative, scaled-down proposal. and there will be discussions about what could be in the details of a proposal they could vote on, in theory, this weekend. the ideal outcome would be all the members agree to the terms of that deal. and then the two senators in the room agree that they can get their parties to bring it to a vote with no one filibustering it. and then on the house side, speaker boehner would agree that he will put it on the house floor for a vote on monday. and then it would pass in the house and in the senate, and it all gets done before new year's eve. that see
cliff, the massive tax increases and spending cuts to take place in four days. the president and vice president will be meeting with house speaker john boehner, minority leader nancy pelosi, senate majority leader harry reid, and minority leader mitch mcconnell. and watching all this, jessica yellin live at the white house. jess, what do we think is going to happen here? >> reporter: well, based on the expectations around town, the thought is the president and democrats will lay out an...
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>> set the fiscal cliff aside for one moment. you've done extensive research on recovery from recessions. where are we in the current recovery? what in your estimation does 2013 look like from an economic standpoint. >> fairly normal from world war ii financial crisis, housing recovers on cue five or six years later. the good news is that there's stable underlying growth. the bad news is you don't get the zoom you got out of it during the depression. >> we're in year five of a seven year process. >> more than seven years. >> last time you were here you said we were half way through regardless of who wins in 2012. the next four years would not look much better than the past four years. >> we're going to have, i don't know if not very much better than the past four but we're not going to have fantastic growth. unemployment will take many more years to feel normal, so we have many years left in the recovery but hopefully in two or three years we feel like we're moving there and not at the starting point. >> let's talk about the glob
>> set the fiscal cliff aside for one moment. you've done extensive research on recovery from recessions. where are we in the current recovery? what in your estimation does 2013 look like from an economic standpoint. >> fairly normal from world war ii financial crisis, housing recovers on cue five or six years later. the good news is that there's stable underlying growth. the bad news is you don't get the zoom you got out of it during the depression. >> we're in year five of a...
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by thoughts on the fiscal cliff are, why don't we just let the bush tax cuts expired? host: on that point, where would you draw the line in terms of the middle class americans? the president said $250,000, but that threshold could now be $450,000. caller: i came from a pretty upper in the family. but i do not consider -- $60,000, $70,000 -- that is pushing at. $90,000? no, no. that is not middle-class. you are making more than triple what some of your average americans make in the year. host: ok. republican line. caller: thank you. i just want to respond to tom harkin's comments. the housing market is largely responsible for the mess we're in right now. they voted not to pay taxes on $100,000 worth of gains every two years and extended mortgages to people who never in the history of our country could have afforded a home, under the idea that everybody should be able to have a shot at the american dream. i really -- i am just upset. they hold out until the last day when they had all year to deal with these issues. now the passion and the i read attitudes of people are c
by thoughts on the fiscal cliff are, why don't we just let the bush tax cuts expired? host: on that point, where would you draw the line in terms of the middle class americans? the president said $250,000, but that threshold could now be $450,000. caller: i came from a pretty upper in the family. but i do not consider -- $60,000, $70,000 -- that is pushing at. $90,000? no, no. that is not middle-class. you are making more than triple what some of your average americans make in the year. host:...
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that are part of the fiscal cliff. mr. mccain: may i thank the senator from maryland, as always, for her usual courtesy and i think she had a very important message and i appreciate not only the words themselves but her eloquence and passion. mr. president, i ask unanimous consent that the senator from south carolina be included in a colloquy during my remarks. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. mccain: mr. president, i, like i believe all of us just finished watching the president's remarks at -- i guess it was the executive office building. and i'm not sure yet as i sort out my impressions of the president's remarks as to whether to be angry or to be saddened. i've been around this town for a number of years, and as is well known, i had an interest in the presidency more than academic and i've watched a lot of presidents, going back to president reagan from the standpoint of a member of congress. and i've watched these other crises as we go through them, whether it be the potential shutdown of the governme
that are part of the fiscal cliff. mr. mccain: may i thank the senator from maryland, as always, for her usual courtesy and i think she had a very important message and i appreciate not only the words themselves but her eloquence and passion. mr. president, i ask unanimous consent that the senator from south carolina be included in a colloquy during my remarks. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. mccain: mr. president, i, like i believe all of us just finished watching the president's...
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part of the fiscal cliff deal is that there are heavy pentagon cuts in the sequester. the budget is the reason i think president obama would like to have leon panetta told on for a least another year. he is an experienced public official. he was budget director at one time. he has good relations on capitol hill, particularly with republicans. i think the administration would just as soon see him hang in there. he is at the age where he may want to return to california. host: stevens writes in on twitter that he would like to see howard dean offered a position. is there any talk about the howard dean appointment? guest: they do appreciate the job he did during the 2008 election for the party. i have not heard his name. talking with david jackson from "usa today." he also worked at "dallas morning news." i want to go to diane from arizona on the democratic line. caller: is there any possibility ben bernanke and tim geithner could both be replaced? from what i have read, they both have a background or some dealings with the basics and will street. my impression is they ar
part of the fiscal cliff deal is that there are heavy pentagon cuts in the sequester. the budget is the reason i think president obama would like to have leon panetta told on for a least another year. he is an experienced public official. he was budget director at one time. he has good relations on capitol hill, particularly with republicans. i think the administration would just as soon see him hang in there. he is at the age where he may want to return to california. host: stevens writes in...
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the fiscal cliff -- i believe both sides know what to do. it is going to be painful. either raise taxes or cut spending. both need to be done. our taxes are going to go up. some good programs will be cut automatically on january 1 if they do not come up with an agreement. that was designed by the politicians to deal with the fiscal problems. it reminds me of the old "national lampoon" comfort that if you don't buy this magazine, we will shoot this dog. save us from ourselves or help us save us from ourselves. it didn't work. they have about a week to go. i suspect they will kick the can down the road. a short-term way to get is passed the immediate collapse of what is stalling certain cuts. maybe unemployment benefits, that kind of thing. i think there will give a short- term answer. host: a lot of headlines are about the republicans and their caucus. what about democrats? are they at fault as well? "we do not want medicare to be touched." the democrats see have put their feet down and said, "we will not do anything." the republican party is divided. i have not seen o
the fiscal cliff -- i believe both sides know what to do. it is going to be painful. either raise taxes or cut spending. both need to be done. our taxes are going to go up. some good programs will be cut automatically on january 1 if they do not come up with an agreement. that was designed by the politicians to deal with the fiscal problems. it reminds me of the old "national lampoon" comfort that if you don't buy this magazine, we will shoot this dog. save us from ourselves or help...